https://www.pinealpodcast.com/1442695/11568970-the-two-party-illusion

wow! Great interview! Wide ranging and long, but worthwhile. No where on mainstream media will you find such an honest, frank and realistic take on what is going on. I think Dan would make a much better US Senator than Ron Wyden. Dan represents the Green Libertarian perspective: from body autonomy to a multipolar world where the people push for control. Pineal Podcast, aka Josh, posed a highly relevant range of questions and Dan fielded them all with authenticity and clear rational and pragmatic logic. Thank you Pineal podcast for the great discussion.